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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Jul 26, 2009 7:05pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Moving items: How long... and to where?

Gosh, looks like I missed a major mindwipe, don't know what was up there. :( So, AFAIK Ken was the main ear/eye for moving "classic" stuff from Opensource collections to related radio, tv and film collections.

Ahead of when somebody else may be set up to do this, can y'all let me know what someone should be looking out for? As far as I can tell,

-Some incoming Opensource Audio should be filed in:
78rpm, oldtimeradio

-Some incoming Opensource Movies should be filed in:
classic_tv, feature_films

Are there other main move-to collections that should be included for classic (like, where do Opensource-sent shorts go)? Reply here, thanks!

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffLum Edwards Date: Jul 26, 2009 7:38pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Moving items: How long... and to where?

Miss Diana, How Glad I am to see you here. While I dont have answers to all your questions and I dont understand the last one at all but if someone runs this search it will bring up alot of programs for this group.

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=Classic%20tv%20AND%20collection%3Aopensource_movies

Not everything listed there should be here though, Reading the listing should be enough to know which to move.

For the Old Time Radio Group use these

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=Old%20Time%20Radio%20AND%20collection%3Aopensource_audio

and

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=OTR%20AND%20collection%3Aopensource_audio

The Feature film People are good at posting the links for items to be moved in that forum.

I again Offer my help to move the Items for IA if my permissions can be extended to the Open Source and Film groups. As of now I only have permissions for The OTR and Classic Tv group.

Thanks Again Miss Diana, I hoped you would read these when time allowed.

Mike D.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Jul 27, 2009 12:25am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Moving items: How long... and to where?

Hi Diana

Cartoon shorts go to more_animation

Drive-in related shorts go to DriveInMovieAds

Random stock footage goes into stock_footage

Twainbough was puting trailers in sabucat_trailers but I don't know if they belong there or not.

I am also happy to volunteer if IA needs someone to look out and move this stuff. I sent an email a couple of weks ago to info at archive.org but didn't get a reply. I suppose having a couple of people who can do this would be better than having just one.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Jul 27, 2009 1:23pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Moving items: How long... and to where?

Thanks Mike and Shane! So, I don't know who sees/helps with volunteer appeals these days, but ahead of getting a "new Ken" into position, I can do some first-pass moving for y'all as I do some of my other curation tasks. Caveats:

-Sabucat is supposed to be a curated collection specific to Sabucat-sourced trailers, not Opensource contributions. So I'd be uncomfortable moving things there. Either we'll have to leave trailers in OSM for now or stow them in feature_films for now. Is there a consensus preference?

-The longtermers' or "regulars'" items may get moved around faster than those of relative newcomers, just due to my way of pattern recognition during curation. Apologies in advance for any unevenness!

-I'll have to keep the moving simple and so will not split the feature films into the genre subcollections (like SciFi_Horror), leaving that sifting for some later expert.

-The rights status for most of this stuff is hard for me to follow, so I'll have to leave it to you buffs and experts to watch out and squawk about in-copyright items. Just because items make it out of OSM and into Classic TV or Feature Films (or out of OSA and into oldtimeradio), does not mean they are known-OK for the site.

-The more good/accurate/truthful description about something, the better chance it will get moved properly instead of pulled down. (I think I'm preaching to the choir in this forum though. ;) )

This post was modified by Diana Hamilton on 2009-07-27 20:23:53

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Jul 27, 2009 4:56pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Moving items: How long... and to where?

It is my understanding, though i could be wrong that Sabucat is no longer involved with IA though the files are still there for all of us to enjoy. If I'm correct in believing this, then perhaps IA should consider changing the name of that section, the fact being that more than a few files have been moved into that section anyway in the last few months, and more than a few of those I contributed. I can't speak for Sabucat, but if he had a problem with other people having files moved into this section, I'm pretty sure IA would have heard about it some time ago. I don't think it should be too much of a big deal.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffDiana Hamilton Date: Jul 28, 2009 4:30am
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Moving items: How long... and to where?

Good points in this and your feature_films post, thanks for the feedback!

Looking back into the trailer collection, I see that the Sabucat items were placed in a single tranche of ~100 in 2004, then no further additions. Plus from a curator perspective those are grouped in a slightly different way compared to the rest. Thus, the Opensource material can be sorted back out easily into another collection later if need be. And the advantage of having them in the one place for now would help any later refiling.

So, the Ken plan continues for trailers at least as a stopgap!

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Poster: guyzilla Date: Jul 28, 2009 5:38pm
Forum: classic_tv Subject: Re: Moving items: How long... and to where?

Just glad to see someone's moving stuff out of Open Source. You're doing good work. Thanks.